How much financial help should you give your kids?

A few months ago, there was a Reddit post in which a 30-year-old discovered his parents (and in-laws) had accumulated retirement nest eggs in the tens of millions.

And he was furious.

The original post has since been deleted but this was the original question reddit user FunkyNedAvenger:

(warning: a bit of “coarse” language is upcoming 😂)

My wife and I have spent almost two decades of leveling up in jobs and careers and are now in our late 30s with two small children in a HCOL state. We scraped and suffered to buy a small ranch house and two used larger cars for our family. Our credit suffered. I’m personally in $20k+ of cc debt that I am slowly working down. Our kids attend daycare that bled out savings dry. Typical millennial shit.

Last week I came across my FIL’s accounts summary. $10+M. Later that week I mentioned I saw that to my own dad. He said “Well he’s doing just a bit better than me then”

LITERALLY WHAT THE FUCK.

I would give my last dollar to my son to make sure he was more comfortable. To make sure he didn’t suffer debt or bad credit as long as he was working. Here are our own fucking parents sitting on their piles of gold watching us navigate a new level of fucked up economics and shopping for discounts and raising our children in sup par school districts and for fucking WHAT?

Pretty upset right?

But it begs the question, how much should parents be helping their kids?

Adversity is Good for You

I believe adversity is good for you. We've all heard stories (or experienced them first hand) about people who were spoiled or always felt entitled. How they don't appreciate what they have or are otherwise not great people to be around.

I think the human brain struggles when resources are too abundant. Comfort is a killer.

If your life is too easy early on, it becomes difficult to adapt to a more challenging environment.

It doesn't sound like Ned (the author of the post) starved. Neither did his kids. And while going into $20,000 of credit card debt is difficult, I bet he appreciates money more than if he were handed assistance at every turn.

We have four kids. We plan to help them at strategic points in their life but they need to navigate those challenges on their own so they become better humans. They need to learn skills like resourcefulness and not how to write a check (or pull out a credit card) to solve a problem.

$20,000 is a lot of debt

In Experian's survey (from 2023), the average credit debt balance was $6,521.

Ned has $20,000 of credit card debt. Over three times the average.

By any measure, Ned and his family were living beyond their means.

And he mentioned their credit suffered, which likely means he missed a few payments or is otherwise using a huge percentage of his available credit (or both).

We don't know why they're in that much debt but I think knowing that would provide a lot of color. Was it a series of emergencies that was made worse by high interest rates? Or was it less than responsible spending and living large on plastic?

If it's the latter, I suspect there's going to be a wee bit less compassion for their situation.

Communication is Extremely Important

Communication underpins all relationships. If you have open lines of communication and you feel that you can open and honest, which we try to be with our kids, then small issues don't become larger problems.

If I knew my kids were struggling and they came to me, I'd look for ways to help. Sometimes that's financially, oftentimes it's not.

It's very likely that Ned's parents don't know he's struggling. We only know of the lasting effects of his choices ($20k in credit card debt) but not how it was accumulated.

It's possible he looks like he's doing well. Two small children in a high cost of living area, homeowners, two cars, and kids in daycare (which probably costs as much as the two cars and a mortgage!)?

It looks like success.

His parents and in-laws may have no idea they needed $20,000 in credit card debt to get there.

Money is an emotional subject (this post is a prime example) and given the level of resentment, it's possible that money was a sensitive subject in the home. Maybe there's a bit of pride at play?

Second, if he had reached out for help, do you think his parents would've said no? It's impossible to know for sure but I don't think they would. If you want help, you have to ask for it.

We Plan to Help Our Kids

But not roll out the red carpet, per se.

I grew up knowing that my parents had my back. If all else failed, I could come home and restart. Fortunately, I didn't have to but just knowing it was an option is powerful.

I want them to know that they are able to take chances, make smart choices, and if things don't work out, a safety net is there for them. I don't believe in the whole “burn your ships” to force you feel like your back is against the wall.

Let's be honest, having to move back in at home after going off to college is a pretty bitter pill to swallow on its own.

We will be there to help them though we won't sacrifice our retirement to do so. They will have long careers to make up for any missteps they make along the way, especially if those missteps are early in their careers.

Retirement & Long Term Care is Expensive

Ten million dollars is a lot of money and most people don't have parents with that kind of money, but retirement is a long time. They worked hard for their money and, let's be fair, they should be able to spend it however they like.

Long term care is also extremely expensive, especially as you get older and your body and mind begins to deteriorate. While a $10 million nest egg is likely more than enough, it's unfair to be spending someone else's money.

What do you think?

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Pat Hill
16 days ago

The time to help the kids is BEFORE they get in debt. Teach them to never carry a credit card balance. Teach them to never finance a car for more than 3 years. Teach them to use banks and credit card companies for rebates and rewards, but to never let them use you. If you have done this and they are still stupid enough to get deep in debt, let them work their way out of it. Maybe they will learn if they feel some pain from their actions. Help them payoff the debt and they will almost certainly get… Read more »

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Robert Cowan
16 days ago
Reply to  Pat Hill

I agree. If you’ve tried to teach them these principles and they have opted to not adhere to them then it is NOT on you. Even with good kids I don’t believe in paying their way to an elevated lifestyle. They should do it the old fashioned way….earn it.

B. B. Stanfield
16 days ago

Struggle, within reason, is good. Too much stress and strain, (depending on the individual), kills incentive, discourages further attempts and people just give up. Never having to work for something is worse. Youngsters learn many lessons you may not realize early in life. That initial mind set, good or bad, is generally impossible to change later in life. Either these parents don’t know the extent of sons struggle or very aware and view it as not that bad. With millions in assets they likely have sufficient liquidity to easily pay down $20,000 in credit card debt. They may be choosing… Read more »

Robert Cowan
16 days ago

I have two 40-ish daughters who are married and I have confronted this decision many times. One daughter got my message growing up and is out of debt and living a relatively stress-free life as a result of her determination to make progress and not ‘back up’ by making frivolous decisions. The other however, has wanted to live to the max with credit cards and debt. Up until earlier this year, that daughter has had a 1% ‘line of credit’ with dear old dad since her 20’s. There have also been times where she got in a bind and I… Read more »

Robert Cowan
16 days ago
Reply to  Jim Wang

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Katelyn
16 days ago

This is a great take Jim. Based on the post there isn’t enough info. Do the parents/in laws have a lot of liquid cash or is this all retirement? Did they get into debt due to emergencies out their control (example: friend of a friend just moved & was quoted $13k to fix pipes they had no idea were damaged) or did they take a Disney vacation that the kids were too small to remember? Do the parents know they’re struggling & why? Are they close? Too many questions, and we won’t get the answers. Good on you for helping… Read more »

Ryan
16 days ago

Look, I’m in a similiar mindset as you. I don’t need the red carpet. My grandparents helped my parents multiple times during rough patches. It took until I was in HS before my parents really took their debt seriously. But I also know there is a financial gift coming once my grandparents pass — Do I know how much? No. Am I spending the money now? No. But it is nice knowing there is something. It sounds like this guy has some bad habits and needs to make some changes to his lifestyle.

Phillip
15 days ago

Agree that context matters. But my gut sense is the kid has an entitlement problem. I got a kid in college and he will likely be in the same position in the future. My approach is to grant “help” in phases and monitor. As a college student, he’s getting help in th 5 figure range for rent, food and entertainment. Tuition is separate and fully paid for. As a young adult, he will get “help” in the 6 figure range provided he’s responsible. I fully expect he invest this money for retirement, a down payment for a home or other… Read more »

Stewart
2 days ago

Two great articles. I do not have that much in NQ assets but above average in Q accounts. Tax gains harvesting is interesting. The article about helping kids was good for the second time around that I read it. No one is asking for money yet. I suspect someone is around the corner though….one time they wanted a loan for asbestos removal in an abandoned mobile home. Not having much in NQ assets it was easy to say no.

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